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re: United we stand on skate park

wcsportscorner — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:30:04 GMT

I'm sorry I was not able to attend but am very pleased to hear about the large number of attendees and the reported fantastic atmosphere.

KUDOS to everyone who was able to attend and provide feedback and suggestions. I look forward to the park re-opening.

re: Tough love on skate park closure

skatersmom — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:55:43 GMT

I was saddened to hear that the skate park was shut down due to the bad behavior by some individuals. I find it very hard to believe that any of the true skaters would have been in on the destruction and illegal activity because they wouldn't chance losing their place to practice their skills.

My son and I (and several of his friends) attended the meetings when all the plans for the park were being made and I encouraged the City to put a fence around the park, put up lights, charge a small admission, and have the rec center "police" the park to ensure it stays safe for all. There's a great skatepark in Portland, TX (near Corpus Christi) that I take my son to quite frequently www.portlandtx.com/SkatePark.cfm. We pay $5.00 each day for him to skate the park, he receives a wrist band showing that he is a paying customer, and we've not experienced any problems there. The park has specific operating hours and outside those hours it is locked up. It's considered part of the rec center and the rec employees are paid to help keep an eye on the place. Only once have we seen kids come into the park and cause a little bit of a problem, but once it was brought to the attention of the rec center workers, the kids were asked to leave and everyone else could get back to skating. I think it's very unfortunate that there are some people that try to mess-up things for others to enjoy. I ask the City to please consider charging a fee for people to skate at the park and to allow the customers to use the rec center for water and restroom breaks. I would certainly have no problem paying for my son to skate in a safe and protected environment. Seems to be working just fine in Portland. I certainly don't see why it can't work the same in Round Rock!

re: Tough love on skate park closure

Skatermom — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:09:48 GMT

It's too bad this was the only option. I talked to 2 School Resource officers this summer, and they told me it had been fine out there. Guess the police were misinformed. I agree with a "lifeguard" out there. Also, the skaters need to be allowed to come in for water, it's hot, and they really work up a sweat. My 16 year old was not allowed to get water, and there is nothing out there for them. Also, as far as trash, where are the trash cans? It looks trashy out there since they didn't build any kind of sidewalks to get to the skating area, and the rain and mud are the only "landscaping" they have. Lots of ideas are out there, it should not have been just shut down. If things are happening after hours, then it needs to be treated like all other public places where things happen after hours. Cops can do their jobs, which is to protect and serve.

re: Tough love on skate park closure

idano — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:37:53 GMT

I think it would be good to have someone onsite while the park is open - kind of like a life guard of some sorts.

If there is a person of authority around I am sure these types of issues would quickly go away.

re: Tough love on skate park closure

wcsportscorner — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:39:59 GMT

I will try to make the meeting but just in case I am unable to attend STIBROKER linked to a site that also provides a "Skatepark Stewardship" document. www.skatersforpublicskateparks.org/.../stewardship.html

I would be surprised if the City is unable to identify or recruit "UNOFFICIAL STEWARDS" for the Round Rock Skate Park.

re: Tough love on skate park closure

wcsportscorner — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:07:27 GMT

I read there were 115 calls placed with the RR police department prior to the park closure. When were these calls placed? Since the park opening I visit on numerous occasions with both of my children each week departing prior to darkness and I have not seen any vandalism occuring during the day.

I agree that trash at times is bad but I'm not sure that closing the park was the appropriate decision at this time. I think the park closure sends the wrong message regarding individuals in the community that like to skate. For an example take a look at the Statesman blog entry and comments titled "Vandalism prompts Round Rock to temporarily closes skate park".

Why are we allowing "misdemeanor criminal activity such as trespassing, disturbances and criminal mischief" of a few individuals affect so many? There must be other options for example the monitoring by the RR Police in the evenings.

re: Tough love on skate park closure

STIBROKER — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:17:43 GMT

It is truly unfortunate that it has come to this but needed to be done. The kids do need to police themselves and the park.Round Rock has done a wonderful thing by building this park and the park has been probably the most trafficked park Round Rock has in its city limits.I am sure Mable Davis went through some growing pains when it first opened as well as Lakeway but think this park has seen way more traffic in the last couple of months than both combined,which is a good thing because the money was not wasted on a park that no one goes to.I myself(45)skate it quite often with and without my kids at various times and always have a car full when I go,usually my 3 kids and their friends.I do like to skate at nite because it is cooler than the heat of the day and on occasion would have liked to see the police make more of a presence out there and do an occasional walk through. Not just to start scaring kids not to come out but rather talk with them bond and make it a more safe and family oriented park. Like I said I have a 16 yr old boy and a set of 12 yr boy/girl twins and all love to skate the park. My little girl roller blades it and everyone has been very accommodating to her. Yes the park needed to be closed but I sure we can work out a plan to have it reopened on Tues.I will plan on making this meeting. Here is an idea I would like to throw out that the San Marcus skate park is doing to help keep their park up and running..Matt of Mustache Skateboards's could be a big help with this....

www.skatersforpublicskateparks.org/.../viewtopic.php

Skate Park of San Marcos Team Concept

Why would a city skate park need a team ?

Because it gives one a sense of ownership and purpose.

Currently, there is 4 out of 10 people on our team. We picked out the kids that were.

1. Great Skaters ( in their own right )

2. Down to Earth

3. Skated the park ALOT

We're giving them new SPOSM boards and in return they are on the team. Simple as that.

Since there's really no use for a team now a days, but everyone still wants to be a "Team Rider", we're using the team to be Stewards for the Park. They get all the perks of being on a team, but also have to look after the park. They have to make sure trash is picked up when ever they can, they have to help teach the little kids not to goof off, and basically be Liaison between the Parks and Recs Dept and the CORE riders of the park.

While the closure of Round Rock Skate Park due to violations is bad, it's a great lesson to be taught to users of other parks.

Our team has been telling every one they can, that if our park is not taken care of, IT WILL GET SHUT DOWN. It really hits home.

We've only had this little program going for a few weeks, but ( knock on wood ) it's been working very well. I even had one kid tell me that being on the team a few days has already cost him a couple of friends after he btiched them out for leaving trash in the parking lot.

I'll try and keep y'all posted on how it works out. We'll have the team filled before our big Competition in October.

re: Truth in advertising

idano — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:50:33 GMT

@ E148

I did not see anything in the video that was not true. In regards to the drivers I am not aware of any place, especially in Texas, that people do not drive like they do in RR. In fact I have seen worse other places in Texas.

In regards to the growth - they are up front about it.

Round Rock is growing and it is going to get bigger - this is why my family and I moved here. I can understand that this type of growth may not be for everyone and that is fine, but this video is up front about that and does not try to hide it.

Finally, the traffic issue are a direct result of the explosive growth and I see Round Rock addressing this. In the last 6 months the Toll road has been added and they are in the process of widening 79 to accommodate all the traffic coming THROUGH Round Rock from other cities that are growing (Hutto, Taylor, Georgetown). I am very impressed to see the cities response in this area especially compared to what I have seen in California and in the cities here in Texas (Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio). Traffic is WAY better in RR then over in Cedar Park and Leander (all take 35 over 183 any day).

I see Round Rock as very progressive and on the ball.

It may not be for everyone, but it is definitely for me!

re: Truth in advertising

E148 — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:00:47 GMT

The video is mediocre at best. Almost all that was said in it can be said for most cities, especially those of less than 100,000 population. The population will not remain below 100,000 for much longer. I am guessing that by the 2010 census it will be greater than 100,000. At least it would not surprize me.

Truth in advertising is needed here. It does not show the congestion, bad drivers running stop signs thoughout town and yet you are going to put up, maybe half a dozen or so, red light cameras? Like that is going to improve anything. This area has the worst drivers in the state.

I moved here from Houston, in late 1992. I , like most people who move, was relatively happy and thought that RR was a nice place to live. It has changed radically. Back then the population was about 26,000 (1990 census)and RR was called the fastest growing small town in the US. Unfortunately, it has continued to grow. The population will about quadruple in about 20 years and in the next 20 years the population of this whole area is expected to double. Good now we can have twice as many bad drivers as we do now.

That is RR, not so much what the video portrayed.